This is where we have explored and recorded topics that open our curiosity and find connection to outside spaces. We will also connect with others who inspire us and walk new paths literally and figuratively. Come listen!ponderwhilewewander.com
Location: Saratoga Woods, Whidbey Island, WA Record date: 4/21/2026 Release date: 8/15/2026 Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/ Episode Description: Join Amber and Natasha on a breezy day from Saratoga Woods on Whidbey Island, WA where they dive into the complexities surrounding our Relationship to Stuff. After taking a moment to greet the land and many animals all around them, they introduce Earth Overshoot Day, getting curious about what it means to use more resources than we have and explore a global mindset around consumerism. Throughout this e
S2 E15: Living More Simply
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Location: Seattle Japanese Garden unceded lands of the Coast Salish Peoples, specifically the Duwamish, Suquamish, Stillaguamish, and Muckleshoot People. Record date: 4/21/2026 Release date: 8/1/2026 Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/ Episode Description: Join Amber and Natasha from the Seattle Japanese Garden, in Seattle WA as they discuss what it is to Live More Simply. They are greeted upon entry into the garden by a split maple tree, beautiful rhododendrons, many azaleas and the background hum of city noise. The episode begins with a question:
S2 E14: Wandering
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Location: Yosemite National Forest, California, USA Record date: 3/27/26 Release date: 7/15/26 Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/ Episode Description:Join Amber and Natasha as they wander through Wawona, California. As the snow is melting and river water is flowing they explore what it is to wander! They share definitions, poems, and explore chronos versus chiros ways of being with time. Natasha also introduces the wander’s society and the idea of psychogeography. In this episode Amber and Natasha discuss the archetype of the wanderer, how aspects
S2 E13: Stargazing
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Location: Yosemite National Forest, California, USA Record date: 3/1/26 Release date: 7/1/26 Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/ Join Amber and Natasha in Wawona, CA under the stars, in this first ever episode recorded at night! Together they discuss our need for darkness and stargazing. They explore how stargazing can help us connect us to something bigger than ourselves and how darkness is rich with metaphor. They share memories of their own experiences stargazing and touch on how both stargazing and darkness are good for our physical health! The
S2 E12: Forest Bathing and other location based ecotherapies.
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Location: Yosemite National Forest, California, USA Record date: 2/27/26 Release date: 6/15/26 Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/ Episode Description: Join Natasha and Amber as they slip and slide down a slushy, snow path to a peaceful forest grove where they discuss Forest Bathing and a variety of nature based therapies! With so many different therapies that center our relationship with and within nature, Amber and Natasha offer listeners an introduction to many of these therapies and the elements they may include. They explore both the similarit
S2 E11: Ecotherapy: Finding your Nature prescription.
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Location: Wawona, Yosemite National Forest, California, USA Record date: 2/24/26 Release date: 6/1/26 Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/ Expanding on the themes of previous episodes of the benefits of having a deeper relationship with other-than-human nature, Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa share personal stories and different ways humans have found their entryways to deepening that relationship in modernity. They address some of the challenges and ways to self-assess which nature prescription might work for you. They also share some ideas of fo
S2 E10: What Exactly is Ecopsychology?
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Location: Yosemite National Forest, California, USA Record date: 3/23/26 Release date: 5/15/26 Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/ Natasha Morisawa and Amber Martin explore the evolving definition of Ecopsychology, some of the challenges in naming the field, and why they took so long to include this in the podcast series. They share personal stories about their relationship to Land and Ecopsychology and how healing and new paths emerged from honoring these experiences. From the banks of a river in the Yosemite National Forest, their discussion enco
S2 E9: What is a contemplative practice and why might we want to have one?
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Location: Wawona,Yosemite National Forest, California, USA Record date: 3/1/26 Release date: 5/1/26 Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/ Episode Description: From a deck in Wawona, California, under the Winter night sky of the Yosemite National Forest,Natasha Morisawa and Amber Martin discuss secular contemplative practice, the benefits of such a practice, and types of practices. Topics include: An overview of different branches of contemplative practice Specific invitations for exploring contemplative practice Single practices to start finding your
S2 E8: Decentering ourselves: What does it mean to take ourselves out of the center of our relationship with nature?
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Location: Yosemite National Forest, California, USA Record date: 3/25/26 Release date: 4/15/26 Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/ Natasha and Amber join you from the banks of a babbling spring in Yosemite National Park, to talk about De-centering ourselves in relationship to Nature. They explore what is required of us to answer the dire call of Nature, through necessary and difficult paradigm shifts. They invite this topic into our consciousness and further ground their exploration in the work of Jeanine Kante in her book “Returning the Self to Na
S2 E7: Let’s Take an Awe Walk
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Location: Yosemite National Forest, California, USA Record date: 3/25/26 Release date: 4/1/26 Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/ THANK YOU TO PINE TREE MARKET: Ponder While We Wander is so grateful for our first community sponsorship! A big shout out to Pine Tree Market run by Michael and Katie Henderson, and their lodging support for us during our stay in Yosemite National Park. We are so grateful not only for their support but their excitement in helping us share all things EcoPsychology to a wider audience. If you ever find yourself in Wawona,
S2 E6: Let’s talk about Journaling With Nature.
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Location: Chetzamoka Park, Port Townsend, Washington, USA Record date: 10/21/25 Release date: 3/15/26 Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/ Join Natasha and Amber as they introduce Journaling with Nature as a way to deepen our relationship with other-than-human Nature. Through the process of journaling,the opportunities to re-connect and re-member arise. They discuss greetings and partings as well as getting curious about this place and ourselves. Other topics include: The benefits of journaling Ways of starting a journaling practice Entryways into r
S2 E5: We’ve got Biophobia and you might too!
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Location: Carrie Blake Park, Sequim, Washington, USA Record date: 10/20/25 Release date: 3/1/26 Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/ Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa describe, normalize, and discuss the phobias we may have as humans in regard to the natural world. The potential origins, consequences, and environmental impact of biophobias are explored as well as ways to address phobias negatively impacting life. Understand more about how the disconnect to other-than-human nature has contributed to these consequences and how to lean into a better re
S2 E4: What is Grounding?
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Location: Dungeness River, Sequim, Washington, USA Record date: 10/20/2025 Release date: 2/16/26 Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/ Walking along a trail beside the Dungeness River, Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa discuss the topic of grounding and invite you to explore with them as they engage with the natural environment of the Dungeness River during salmon spawning season. Learn about ‘top down’ and ‘bottom up’ approaches to processing, the window of tolerance, and different parts of the human nervous system in order to help us manage the str
S2 E3: Nature Deficit Disorder
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Location: Halls Hill Labyrinth and Lookout, Bainbridge Island, Washington, USA Record date: 10/19/25 Release date: 2/2/26 Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/ Based on the work of Richard Louv, Natasha Morisawa and Amber Martin take a walk on an outdoor labyrinth on Bainbridge Island, Washington to ponder the effects of less unstructured outdoor time on children and adults as well as ways to start to think about our time outside. They bring in some practical ways of addressing this imbalance and open the invitation to personally wander in the outdoo
S2 E2: Have You Heard About Rat Park? What environment and connection have to do with addiction
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Location: Meerkerk Gardens, Whidbey Island, Washington, USA Record date: 10/18/25 Release date: 1/15/25 Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/ From a curated, wooded garden on Whidbey Island, Washington, Natasha Morisawa and Amber Martin introduce the Rat Park study and its findings. They wander and ponder about the connection to humans and addiction as well as different ways of viewing mental health and addiction from not only an individual but a community lens as well. Join them in asking questions about what is working in our modern lives and what
S2 E1: How We Gather and Why it Matters
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Location: Curse and Holler Ranch, Chimicum, Washington Record date: 10/16/25 Release date: 1/1/26 Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/ To be in relationships may be more crucial and difficult now than in previous generations. Based on stories of loneliness and the challenges of making friends in adulthood, Natasha and Amber start to unpack some of the ways this affects us as individuals and communities. They offer some practical ways of being with those challenges and invitations to connect with ourselves, other humans, and the world around us. Expl
Ep 13: What's a good goodbye?
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Location: HJ Carroll Park, Chimacum, Washington, USA Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa Guest: Rev. Aaron Twitchell https://lovewellnj.com/ Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/ An episode in two parts. In part one, Amber and Natasha talk with Rev. Aaron Twitchell about good goodbyes in his experience with supporting, consulting with, and counseling individuals and families at the end of life. Then Natasha and Amber take the topic out into nature to a park with a stream and other than human nature. We explore if there is such a thing as a good goodbye and if there is, what can help su
Ep 12: Present Not Perfect in Showing Up for the Polycrisis
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Location: Kah Tai Lagoon, Port Townsend, Washington, USA Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/ Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa talk and walk around the Kah Tai Lagoon with deer, herons, eagles, and other than human nature to discuss what the Polycrisis. They help us see through a lens of interconnectedness and discuss how to build a social, emotional, and spiritual first aid kit in managing the predicaments we find ourselves in. Explore more about Ponder While We Wander A soothing podcast for trying times. https://ponderwhilewewander.com/ https://p
Ep 11: Grieving as a verb
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Location: Arroyo Seco, Pasadena, CA, USA Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/ Amber and Natasha explore the challenges and human connection to the universal experience of grief. They touch on the different types of grief, how we grieve, and why it is important to acknowledge it when it shows up. Our relationship with nature can provide ways of incorporating ritual and meaning-making into ways of holding and processing grief instead of disconnecting from it all together. Explore more about Ponder While We Wander A soothing podcast for trying times. h
Ep 10: A cup of coffee can heal me
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Location: Captain Whidbey, Whidbey Island, Washington, USA Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/ Natasha and Amber travel to a magical place by ferry and, fueled by a couple cups of coffee, ponder the significance of coffee. They explore the ritual and magic of connecting over a warm beverage. Can a cup of coffee connect us to ourselves, loved ones, strangers, the whole world? Grab a beverage of your choice and join us. Explore more about Ponder While We Wander A soothing podcast for trying times. https://ponderwhilewewander.com/ https://ponderwhilew
Ep 9: My Right Eye Keeps Twitching
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Location: Discovery Bay, Washington, USA Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/ Come see how noticing our discomfort can invite us into deeper connection with nature as we ponder by the shore where birds, seals, and other than human nature join us. Explore more about Ponder While We Wander A soothing podcast for trying times. https://ponderwhilewewander.com/ https://ponderwhilewewander.substack.com/ Episode Resources Links: https://silvotherapy.co.uk/about-forest-healing http://www.tribalmuseum.jamestowntribe.org/
Ep 8: Birds, birds everywhere
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Location: Fort Flagler Historical State Park, Washington, USA Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/ Natasha and Amber visit a place where the ocean meets forest to tune into birds as a way of intentionally paying attention and deepening how we make meaning in our lives. Come listen to the topic and the birds! Explore more about Ponder While We Wander A soothing podcast for trying times. https://ponderwhilewewander.com/ https://ponderwhilewewander.substack.com/ Episode Resources Links: http://www.tribalmuseum.jamestowntribe.org/ https://amytan.net/bac
Ep 7: Creativity is not a luxury
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Location: Price Sculpture Forest, Whidbey Island, Washington, USA Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/ Natasha and Amber amble along in the Price Sculpture Forest on Whidbey Island, Washington, USA and explore creativity as an important force for individuals and humanity as a whole. If you are looking for an invitation or support to sink into your creativity, you’ll definitely want to listen to this episode! Explore more about Ponder While We Wander A soothing podcast for trying times. https://ponderwhilewewander.com/ https://ponderwhilewewander.sub
Ep 6: It's not safe to rest
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Location: Penn Cove, Washington, USA Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/ Rest is important, so why is it so hard? Amber and Natasha discuss some of the messages and individual and collective challenges to getting rest and give some examples of nature that invite us to take a deeper perspective to rest. Explore more about Ponder While We Wander https://ponderwhilewewander.com/ https://ponderwhilewewander.substack.com/ Episode Resources Links: https://allpoetry.com/poem/15374223-Wild-geese-by-Mary-J-Oliver https://salish-current.org/2024/11/20/orcas-
Ep 5: We’ve got biophilia, and you might have it too!
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Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa Location: Ft Townsend, Port Townsend, WA Come walk with us while we explore the “love of life” humans have with natural environments. Amber and Natasha share ways in which this enhances our lives and can be integrated into everyday living. We find some banana slugs, evidence of other animals around, and breathe in the forest air, and you’re invited to come along! Explore more about Ponder While We Wander https://ponderwhilewewander.com/ https://ponderwhilewewander.substack.com/ “They travel long distances to stroll along the seashore, for reasons they c