Andrew Mayne, former science communicator at OpenAI, takes you through the latest in Artificial Intelligence. Hosted by Justin Robert Young. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Andrew and Justin discuss Anthropic's text-based AI watermarks, the future of private companies in an AI world, and whether Google can keep up with the rest of its frontier rivals. The Attention Mechanism is now available in video! Check it out here. Chapters 00:00:00 - Intro 00:00:55 - Watermarks 00:20:45 - Dario's Private Company Thoughts 00:36:58 - Always-Listening Assistants and Google's Place in the Frontier Race 00:54:34 - RIP Atlas, One Last Time 00:58:25 - Wrap-up Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
The End of the DeepMind Era?
· 39:03
Andrew and Justin reconvene to talk about an ongoing series of recent upheavals at Google, asking whether the company's lack of focus on AI puts it at a disadvantage over its frontier rivals. They also discuss Sam Altman's trip to Washington and the discourse surrounding model hacking incidents. The Attention Mechanism is now available in video! Check it out here. Editor's note: Some minor crosstalk issues in this episode due to recording sync delays. Chapters 00:00 - Intro 01:04 - Google Shakeup 21:13 - Mr. Altman Goes to Washington 37:24 - Dean Ball and Wrap-up Hosted on Acast. See acast.com
A Good Guy with a Frontier Model
· 56:55
Andrew and Justin discuss the Hugging Face breach, which saw an unreleased OpenAI model find its way into the company's systems during internal testing. They also discuss the launch of Opus 5, the ongoing progress made by Chinese models, and the crunch for compute as 10GW data center plans start to make some motion. Plus, a tribute to the late John C. Dvorak. The Attention Mechanism is now available in video! Check it out here. Chapters 00:00 - Intro 01:23 - Hugging Face 15:45 - Chinese Models 26:01 - Opus 5 36:11 - 10GW Data Centers 52:29 - RIP John C. Dvorak Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/pr
A Frontier Shakeup
· 1:03:09
Andrew and Justin discuss what's turned out to be a busy July for frontier models, including the launch of Kimi K3, the latest in Anthropic's Fable saga, and the arrival of GPT-5.6. They also dive into Anthropic's strange World Cup ad campaign and OpenAI's relaunched desktop app. You can watch a video version of this podcast here: https://youtu.be/bTUfneEBn14 Chapters 00:00:00 - Intro 00:01:11 - Kimi and Chinese Models 00:08:26 - Google's Position 00:21:47 - Anthropic's Fable Saga 00:32:31 - Anthropic's World Cup Ad Campaign 00:40:09 - GPT-5.6 00:50:10 - Sites, Speech, and Desktop 00:57:42 - W
The 800-Pound Panda in the Room
· 54:12
Andrew and Justin discuss the return of Fable, which arrives with some slight performance changes after a prolonged fight between Anthropic and the US government. What's the future of Anthropic's flagship model, and does it point to the arrival of GPT-5.6 in the coming days? They also discuss GLM-2, Chinese models, and the age of token efficiency, plus a quick look at that Alex Karp interview blowing up your timeline. The Attention Mechanism is now available in video! Check it out here. Chapters 00:00 - Intro 01:35 - Fable's Return 21:33 - GPT-5.6 30:57 - Chinese Models 46:59 - Alex Karp's CNB
Reshuffling the Deck
· 1:03:13
Andrew and Justin take a look at the continuing fallout of Anthropic's fight with the government, including the delayed general availability of OpenAI's GPT-5.6. Plus, is China catching up with the US in terms of model performance, agentic apps continue to make their way to mobile devices, and is Apple's recent RAM-related price hike a permanent blemish on the end of Tim Cook's career? Chapters 00:00:00 - Intro 00:01:02 - Anthropic Fallout Continues 00:14:45 - China's Window? 00:30:22 - Anthropic and OpenAI Timeline Predictions 00:31:53 - GPT-5.6 00:38:22 - 5.6 on Cerberus 00:44:58 - Mobile Ag
Everything's a Metaphor
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Andrew and Justin zoom in on the continued fallout surrounding Anthropic following the government's decision to issue an export-control directive on its Mythos-based models. Now that it's been over a week, what are the next steps for Dario Amodei's company? They also discuss the pending launch of GPT-5.6 and the ongoing AI brain drain currently happening in the offices of Google. Chapters 00:00:00 - Intro 00:01:42 - Anthropic 00:23:02 - GPT-5.6 00:42:48 - Google Brain Drain 01:03:29 - Wrap-up Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Mythos Goes Myth
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Andrew and Justin dive into the ongoing drama surrounding Anthropic and the US government, as an emergency export control directive forced the AI giant to suspend access to both Mythos 5 and Fable 5. Chapters 00:00:00 - Intro 00:02:08 - Anthropic 00:27:48 - Fable 5, ChatGPT 5.6, and Model Performance 00:44:58 - Meta and the AI Window 01:01:25 - Wrap-up Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Third Time's the Charm
· 53:37
Andrew and Justin dig into Apple's latest — and Tim Cook's final — WWDC, where Apple Intelligence once again promised to change how you use your iPhone. They also dive into the ongoing IPO races with several S-1 filings, dig into superapp rumors, and pour one out for Pulse. Chapters 00:00 - Intro 01:32 - WWDC 13:56 - IPO 30:12 - Mythos, Codex, and superapps 49:14 - RIP Pulse and wrap-up Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
The Good, the Bad, and the I/O
· 44:03
Andrew and Justin recap Google's big announcements coming out of this year's I/O conference. Aside from its new Omni video model, what else left the pair excited about Google's AI efforts? Honestly, not a ton. They also discuss "tokenmaxxing," before digging into a new report surrounding Anthropic's eventual plans for Mythos. Chapters 00:00 - Intro 02:37 - Google I/O (good!) 09:20 - Google I/O (bad!) 27:22 - Tokenmaxxing 36:29 - Mythos 43:22 - Wrap-up Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Suing Your Way to the Moon
· 36:54
Andrew and Justin talk through the fallout of the Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman lawsuit, which played out in dramatic fashion over the last couple of weeks before ending prematurely on a statue of limitations ruling. Chapters 00:00 - Intro 00:36 - Musk v. Altman 32:35 - Google I/O 36:16 - Wrap-up Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Good Vibes
· 1:01:59
Andrew and Justin reconvene to talk about a busy couple of weeks in AI, including diving into Andrew's time at OpenAI's 5.5 launch party. Before that, the two discuss the new compute partnership between xAI and Anthropic and wonder what it might mean for the future of Elon's company ahead of its IPO, and eventually dig into the arrival of Realtime 2, why you can't buy a Mac Mini, and much more. Chapters 00:00:00 - Intro 00:01:36 - xAI and Anthropic 00:18:51 - The 5.5 Launch Party 00:23:17 - Good Vibes and Rumors at OpenAI 00:40:09 - Realtime 2 00:49:47 - Thinking Machines 01:01:20 - Wrap-up Ho
The Compute Crisis
· 38:22
Andrew and Justin discuss Anthropic's increasingly high compute demands, leading to frequent downtime and throttled usage, and compare it to OpenAI's treatment of its Codex users and the recent decision to shutter Sora. They also discuss Anthropic's Mythos announcement and its warnings surrounding cybersecurity, along with some thoughts on the IPO race for both companies. Chapters 00:00 - Intro 01:14 - Compute 16:08 - Mythos 35:33 - IPOs 36:39 - Wrap-up Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Heated Rivalry
· 47:40
Andrew and Justin dive into the rumors surrounding Anthropic's Mythos and OpenAI's Spud. With IPOs on the horizon for both companies, are we looking at an all-new kind of tech rivalry? Chapters 00:00 - Intro 00:22 - Mythos and Spud Expectations 13:28 - Anthropic-OpenAI Rivalry 20:50 - Claude's Hiccups 27:38 - Sora's Death 45:12 - Wrap-up Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
The Cursor Issue
· 38:01
Andrew and Justin dive into the recent drama surrounding Cursor. The team behind the beloved AI coding tool recently launched their own model to compete against the likes of Anthropic and OpenAI without specifically disclosing that their product was actually built on top of Chinese LLMs. After, they discuss reports that OpenAI might bundle its various projects into one single application, asking whether a superapp is right for ChatGPT, before ending on the project that is RentAHuman.AI. Chapters 00:00 - Intro 00:34 - The Cursor Issue 09:27 - Superapps 33:40 - RentAHuman 37:04 - Wrap-up Hosted
Your Always-Available Second Opinion
· 39:35
Andrew and Justin discuss how AI is shaping health, ranging from a dog that appears to have been saved from cancer thanks to AI-enabled research to the ongoing push into this field by OpenAI. They also discuss Nvidia's recent earnings report, showing off advanced guidance that seems to point to ever-increasing compute demand. Chapters 00:00 - Intro 01:10 - Dog's Cancer Diagnosis 09:49 - Broader Health Thoughts 19:00 - Nvidia and Compute 38:34 - Wrap-up Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
A 10-Speed Bicycle Behind a Tractor Trailer
· 52:54
Andrew and Justin reconvene to discuss Anthropic's recent claims that Chinese AI labs are utilizing Claude to improve their own models, before turning their attention to Anthropic's ongoing rocky relationship with the Pentagon. Elsewhere, the two ponder what's happening with local town board meetings grabbing headlines for turning away data centers — and whether a NIMBY response to data centers could cost these towns more than they thing — before Justin shares his experience of building his first iOS app with Codex. Chapters 00:00 - Intro 01:30 - Anthropic and China 14:11 - Anthropic and the P
Claw-ture Clash
· 49:54
Andrew and Justin discuss the recent acqui-hire Peter Steinberger, the founder behind OpenClaw (né Clawdbot, né Moltbot), with his project remaining open-source. The two also discuss the reaction to the depreciation of GPT-4o, which left plenty of users feeling burned, and the recent high-profile departures of various employees who got their exit letters published in outlets like The New York Times. Is it a sign of the times, or just evidence of culture clash? Chapters 00:00 - Intro 01:49 - OpenClaw Acqui-hire 14:03 - Death of GPT-4o 28:29 - Departure Letters and AI Work Culture 48:08 - Brief
The Super Bowl of Super Bowl AI Ads
· 37:07
Andrew and Justin catch up after a Super Bowl that was chock full of various AI ads. The two touch on the ongoing feud between Anthropic and OpenAI over ads, partially fought out, ironically enough, in those very same ad campaigns. After talking through OpenAI's own Codex ad and the launch of its standalone Mac app, the two tackle compute constraints, Elon's pivot to the moon, and more. Chapters 00:00 - Intro and Super Bowl Ads 10:01 - Codex 19:19 - Compute Constraints and Space 25:50 - Elon Pivots from Mars to the Moon 30:10 - New OpenAI Podcast Episode and Wrap-up Hosted on Acast. See acast.
Claude or Clawd
· 47:54
Andrew and Justin talk through the recent viral success of Clawdbot, an open-source AI personal assistant that's taken the web by storm over the weekend. After Justin debates installing it on a Mac Mini, the two discuss the other Claude — namely, Claude's founder Dario Amodei, who continues to issue "dire warnings" over the rise of AI. Chapters 00:00 - Intro 00:47 - Clawdbot 09:26 - Dario Amodei's Dire Warnings 37:06 - The near-future of AI-generated art 44:58 - Wrap-up Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
OpenAI Adds Ads
· 39:41
Andrew and Justin walk through OpenAI CFO Sarah Frier's latest blog post digging into the company's annual revenue compared to its current demand, alongside some thoughts shared by Sarah with Andrew on the official OpenAI Podcast. The two also dig into OpenAI's announcement of ads in its free tier and what it might for the future of the platform before digging into some of the discovery coming out of the Elon-OpenAI lawsuit. Chapters 00:00 - Intro 00:44 - Revenue and Demand for ChatGPT 10:29 - OpenAI Ads 22:08 - Elon Musk's Lawsuit (and general Elon thoughts) 34:16 - Wrap-up (and brief thought
WWSD (What Would Steve Do?)
· 48:26
Andrew and Justin dive into the two big stories facing the world of AI this week. First, ChatGPT Health is here, designed to deliver specific answers tailored to healthcare and wellness. Is this the future of visiting a doctor, and what concerns face this sort of technology moving forward? Then they turn to Google, who are partnering with Apple to provide models for the company's next-gen Siri assistant. Does this prove OpenAI is a larger rival to Apple than Google, and what does this say about the modern state of the brand behind the iPhone? Chapters 00:00 - Intro 01:11 - ChatGPT Heatlh 14:11
Nvidia Gets Groq (Not That One)
· 27:58
Andrew and Justin talk through Nvidia's $20 billion deal to both acquire the talent and license the tech offered by Groq, a chip company focused on lowering inference costs. The two also offer their AI predictions for 2026 and ponder whether Jony Ive and Sam Altman's OpenAI hardware project will show up before year's end. Chapters 00:00 - Intro 00:30 - Nvidia and Groq 16:17 - 2026 Predictions 23:13 - OpenAI Hardware 27:02 - Wrap-up Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
The AI Bubble Question
· 51:26
Andrew and Justin tackle the biggest question surrounding AI right now: are we in a bubble? The two discuss how the market reacts to AI-centric news, slowdowns in hiring, and why product matters more than just simple models. Plus, a little talk on the rumor of ads finding their way to ChatGPT's free tier, and Thrive Capital's investment in OpenAI. Chapters 00:00 - Intro 00:45 - Is there an AI bubble? 17:39 - OpenAI's lasting impact 26:45 - Products over models 40:52 - Ads in ChatGPT 47:20 - OpenAI and Thrive Capital 50:03 - Wrap-up Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Begun, the AI Browser Wars Have
· 56:10
Andrew and Justin dive into the launch of Atlas, OpenAI's new browser set to square off with Chrome in the race to an AI-centric web client. The duo also breaks down Google's flaws in building out its AI toolset, Meta's recent layoffs from its own AI team, and the joys of using Sora over the past month. Chapters 00:00 - Intro and Atlas 14:10 - Sora thoughts 21:43 - Google's AI efforts 23:52 - Meta Layoffs 36:17 - Is there an AI bubble? 50:10 - Wrap-up Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.